IEEE S2ESC Teleconference Meeting #151
Attendees:
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Paul Croll |
S2ESC Chair and TCSE Chair (also VP for Tech Activities
for IEEE Systems Engr Council) |
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Annette Reilly |
Management Board, 15289 WG Chair |
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Carl Singer |
Management Board, CASE Tools interconnection 1175.x WG
Chair |
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Chuck Walrad |
S2ESC Secretary |
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Dave Schultz |
Management Board Chair |
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David Phillips |
Management Board, Study Group Chair (standards in SBEs) |
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Dennis Lawrence |
Management Board, 1028 WG Chair |
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Jody Haasz |
IEEE-SA |
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Joe Jarzombek |
DHS Liaison |
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Keith Middleton |
Management Board |
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Ken Costello |
Management Board |
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Lou Gullo |
guest ( from Reliability Society and AudCom also Std Chair working group P1633 & P1624) |
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Malia Zaman |
IEEE-SA Pgm Mgr for S2ESC to help WG Chairs |
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Marybeth Chrissus |
SEI liaison |
Call to order:
1. Standards Status Report [M. Zaman]
1.1
Ballot status/issues
See Attachment 1.
1.2
PAR issues
1.2.1 P1062 (SW Acquisition) PAR scope [Croll] (see
current standard and new PAR attached below) – not approved. PAR is much too
Government-focused. Has been extended
until 12/2008. Jarzombek will see that
it is re-worked. Suggestions that several other standards (EPRI, ASME
NQA-1:2004, Nuclear regulatory standards) be considered as 1062 is revised.
1.2.2 1420.1 a,b –
administratively withdrawn
1.2.3 20001 - extended
until 12/2009
2. P15026, System and Software
Assurance, SC7 re-plan [
SC7 WG7 proposes go back to square 1 and to split
this into 4 standards: Concepts and
Vocabulary, Assurance Case, System Integrity Levels, Assurance in the Life
Cycle. S2ESC’s position is that this is
counter-productive, in that it will take many years to finish the whole group
and make them available, make it harder for people to use, and unnecessarily
increase the cost to users to purchase and use the standard(s). S2ESC position
is that WG7 should adhere to the original PAR and not split the standard into 4
parts. DoD is also very concerned about the proposal to split it into 4 parts
and is meeting now to discuss it. (Next
TAG meeting is March 25 - 27.) Action: Croll to meet with Moore and
Redwine to communicate this.
3. Contributions to SSTC 2008
This year’s conference will be sponsored by the
Action
[Croll]: FTF
agenda item to discuss plans for next year’s SSTC participation.
4. Strategic Planning [Walz]
a. Walz would like to see WG Chairs create 20
minute podcasts at the completion of their projects to discuss the scope of
their standards and how they might be used by practitioners. Action: Schultz
volunteers to work this with the WG chairs, with support from S2ESC ExCom.
b. Re: cancelled IEEE-SA SWE assessment product. Walz met with Judy Gorman, IEEE-SA Managing Director
in December, and she and the staff want to work with Computer Society
volunteers and staff on new products and services surrounding our standards.
Action: FTF agenda to include discussion of how we can participate in
enhancing the standards product that Marketing had developed to assure that it
accurately reflects the appropriate use of S2ESC standards.
Action: Walrad to send Zaman the S2ESC roster mailing list so that she can
send the existing product to all for review prior to the FTF.
c. S2ESC Strategic Study Groups:
1. "
2. "WG Chair Package" will start up in Jan08.
3. "Collection management" and "Liaisons and
partnering" need to prepare for F2F meeting on Dr. Peter Hantos contrary
views on IEEE/CMMI mis-alignment (my email
5. Winter Meeting Planning [All]
Walrad will send out info about the meeting at Google
Headquarters Feb 5 – 7 (
Phone: 650-623-4000
| Main Fax: 650-618-1499
Attendees can
check-in at the lobby of building 42 - the room is Paramaribo Tech
Talk 42. It's company policy to have
NDAs signed, so prior to the meeting she will give Holly Benson (Google) your names
and email addresses so that she can send out the electronic version.
6. Action item review [All]
Walrad reviewed the actions issued during this
meeting and reminded folks that they should update their items in the
spreadsheet on sharedinsights.
7. Other
Walrad reported that she has been working with PMI
to work out a method for IEEE CS members to participate in the review of the exposure
draft of PMBOK v4, due for publication in 2008. The mechanisms agreed on will
assure that CS reviewers’ comments are given equal consideration as PMI
reviewers, and that CS commenters will be responded to wrt disposition of their
individual comments.
Meeting adjourned at 1:45 p.m., EDT
Next teleconference:
Attachment 1 -- Balloting PAR Update:
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PAR/Standard |
Type of
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Status in
Balloting Process |
Invitation
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Ballot
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Recirculation |
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Recirculation 2 |
ACTION |
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Open Date |
Close Date |
Open Date |
Close Date |
Open Date |
Close Date |
Open Date |
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Claire Lohr |
P829 |
Revision |
Comment Resolution |
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Almost ready to Recirculate, waiting for a
PDF copy as of |
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Dennis Lawrence |
P1028 |
Revision |
Comment Resolution Stage |
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Comment Resolution stage:
Ballot closed 11/2/07.Once MEC corrections are completed, can start
ballot. Invitation closed |
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Carl SInger |
P1175.4 |
New |
Pre-Ballot |
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Extension approved till Dec 2008. MEC has
been submitted, Jennie Steinhagen is
the Editor. Have submitted an Extention to be reviewed
at Dec. Meeting. Carl will have draft ready for MEC by Months end ( |
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Carl Singer |
1362-1998 |
Reaffirmation |
Submitted to Revcom |
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Approved in RevCom Dec 07.
Sent to RevCom, will be reviewed at Dec. Meeting.It is ready to go to REVCOM.
Carl has been sent instructions on how to submit to REVCOM.Sent reminder to
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Jim Moore |
P12207 |
Revision |
Comment Resolution 2 |
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Submitted to RevCom, will be reviewd at
next continuous Processing meeting in Jan 08. In
comment resolution 2 stage : Recirculation 2 ended |
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Jim Moore |
P15288 |
Revision |
Comment Resolution 2 |
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Submitted to RevCom, will be reviewd at
next continuous Processing meeting in Jan 08. In
comment resolution 2 stage. Recirculation 2 ended |
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Annette Reilly |
P15289 |
New |
Comment Resolution |
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Will you be starting Comment Resolution
Soon (Dec 07)? 77.6% Response Rate. With 37 comments.
Ballot Extended as of |
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Paul Croll |
P15026 |
New |
Comment Resolution |
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Will you be starting Comment Resolution
Soon (Dec 07)? 82.5% Response Rate, 243 Comments. Ballot
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Mark Henley |
P16326 |
Revision |
Comment Resolution |
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Will you be starting Comment Resolution
Soon (Dec 07)? Ballot closed with 81.1% Response Rate
and 94.1% Approval Rating. 110 Comments. Ballot opened |
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Jim Moore |
P25051 |
Revison |
Pre-Ballot |
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Balloters decided to withdraw both
documents. Has emailed balloters to get their
decision. Invitation Phase Closed |
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Scott Duncan |
P90003 |
New |
Comment Resolution |
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Scott will run recirc near thanksgiving. Have
email from Yvette, explaining what to say. What to say about an Iso document
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Cheryl Jones |
P15939 |
New |
Invitation |
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Sumitted to RevCom |
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Annette Reilly |
1063-2001 |
Reaffirmation |
Submitted to Revcom |
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Approved at Sept 07 Meeting.Will
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Carl Singer |
1175.1-2002 |
Reaffirmation |
Submitted to Revcom |
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Approved at Sept 07 Meeting.
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Carl Singer |
1362-1998 |
Reaffirmation |
Submitted to Revcom |
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Approved in RevCom Dec 07.
Sent to RevCom, will be reviewed at Dec. Meeting.It is ready to go to REVCOM.
Carl has been sent instructions on how to submit to REVCOM.Sent reminder to
carl |