S2ESC Mtg #133 Minutes

May 9, 2006

 

Attendees:

Paul Croll, Chair

Angela Ortiz

Carl Singer

Chuck Walrad

Clair Lohr

Dave Schultz

Dennis Lawrence

John Walz

Keith Middleton

Vladan Jovanovic

 

 

 

Call to order: 12:35p.m. EST

 

 

Ortiz:  Ballot Status and PAR issues.   15288 and 12207 invitations are closing today. 1175.2 invitation is closed. Carl will prepare the draft for ballot. Angela asked about maintenance for standards that are about to expire this year. WG chair must propose disposition (and reason, if, e.g., extension is needed, PAR is needed, re-affirmation needed, etc.) 

 

AR133-1[1] [Schultz to work with Croll]: Address the list (from Angela) and tell Angela if they need any support. 

 

AR 133-2[Duncan and Lohr]: Propose a plan (key high-level dates) for 829 (Clair will submit an extension request).

 

MB Status Report [Schultz]:  Schultz sent an updated list last week (attached)  730: Ron Dean, WG Chair, will be in Ft Lauderdale for FTF, but no current plans to have a 730 WG meeting at FTF.  Has agreed to guidance supplied him. Walrad found a volunteer for 730 from Sun Java QA. Middleton will ask Dean if he wants to send out a general invitation notice about inviting people to join 730 WG. If so, he’ll need to send info to Angela.   PAR has been approved for 12207.0, but 12207.1 and .2 have been extended to 2007. Base doc has been contributed to SC7,

 

AR 133-3 [Mark Henley]:  Add an active e-mail link for Dean as 730 WG Chair web site.

 

Strategic Planning [Walz]: Outreach/Thought Leadership [Croll/Walz]. 

 

  • TCSE -- how can we establish a relationship with them and leverage it?  They are collaborating with SE Online

 

  • New Standards edition(s).  Discussion of tiered pricing (pricing of new purchase vs updated standards). Also a student/faculty price (“educational version”). This committee approves of the idea.

 

AR 133-4 [Croll]:  Find out who in IEEE makes this decision. Angela recommends talking to Bob Heath, manager of eBusiness. There are already different collections of various types of standards (e.g., transformers). The SW standards CD is a big seller.

 

  • SEPN (SWE Practitioners Network). SEI thinks the SEPN idea would be a good idea – complementary to SPIN.  Paul will be pursuing this. A guy at Albertsons in Boise first suggested it. He is discussing with his CS chapter about bootstrapping a local SEPN.

 

  • SE Online.  Should be a way to use this to promote thought leadership.

 

  • Vitality.  Outreach should include bringing in new volunteers and training them in the Standards process, and developing new leaders.

 

 

SAE AADL Standards Collaboration [Croll]:  AADL is an Architectural description language for embedded systems.  Bruce Lewis is SAE WG Chair for primary activity in this area.  They want to bring the standards over to IEEE.  There are 3 possible scenarios: we could work collaboratively with SAE on future standards, but they have a different process (e.g., closed ballots, not open like IEEE).  Another proposal was to work with them only on Annexes, leaving them responsible for core standard. Current proposal is to work jointly on the revision of the standard currently about to get underway. Lewis is working with Lands and Croll about how to go forward with this. They think it would be useful for IEEE to publish the core standard, but there are a good many IP and other issues to be resolved. They went to SAE rather than IEEE in the first place because they were in the automotive industry. Could be good to embrace them and their supporting companies.

 

Summer Meeting [Croll].  FTF July 31 – August 2 in Ft. Lauderdale.  Re-org in sales office at hotel has delayed draft contract. Croll expects to get it today, though, and will then send us hotel rates. S2ESC Excom meetings M- W.

 

AR 133-5[All]: Give Croll firm commitments by mid-June – he needs firm numbers to sign the contract.

 

AR 133-6 [All]: WRT distributing copies of IEEE standards to WGs and Study Groups.  At FTF, we need to draft language on IP agreements based on IEEE policy re: how the copies can be used by a WG member.  Ortiz said that she can provide language that goes on every page of the standards to be distributed. There is also guidance already available from Study Group for External Standards Coordination.

 

Adjourned at 1:34 EST.

 

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[1] The ARs in this Minutes have also been added to the Action spreadsheet.