IEEE Software Engineering Standards Committee (SESC)

Executive Committee

Minutes of Meeting # 101

17 September 2003

Teleconference

 

Participants

 

Paul Croll, Chair

Kathy Land, Secretary

David Schultz

Ted Byrne

Norm Schneidewind

Joe Jarzombek

Bob Shillato

Peter Voldner

Claire Lohr

Dennis Lawrence

Carl Singer

Symon Moldavsky

Mark Henley

 

Purpose

 

The purpose of the teleconference is to do the following:

 

1.        Address SESC management issues

2.        Review progress of ongoing projects

2.        Review action items

 

Agenda Items

 

Agenda attached.

 

 

IEEE SA Liaison [Croll]

 

Paul Croll is working with IEEE SA to improve the current level of support that SESC MB members are receiving.

 

Status Reports

 

Management Board [Schultz]

David has put together a new summary of ongoing Management Board activities.  This is attached.

 

1648 – The PAR has been tabled until comments received from NESCOM are addressed. Joe will speak to Rich Turner about whether there is sufficient need for this type of standard.  If not, Joe Jarzombek suggested that this might be included as a chapter in 1062. 

 

1074 – John Napier, the chair of this WG has resigned.  An interim acting chair, Keith Middleton has been appointed.  Due to Mark Henley’s proactive modification of the web site this information is reflected there.  The WG intends to nominate a new permanent chair at their October meeting; SESC will need to confirm this nomination.

 

1175.3 – very close to ballot, the ballot process has been started.

 

1175.5 – long-term extension has been granted.

 

1219/14764 – letter ballot went out at the SC7 level to revise 14764, the US did not submit a response, which would have been affirmative.  Three of the five required responses were captured, which is not the required quorum.  Jim Moore is exploring if this is truly dead at the ISO level. 

 

1517 - Bob Shillato has submitted a request for reaffirmation.

 

Procedure Status [Schultz/Land]

 

Kathy Land has sent out a package for initial review with a 2-week comment period.  She will send out another email requesting a vote on this package following this comment period.

 

SESC Web Page [Henley]

 

The meeting minutes and all recent changes have been posted, a notification will be sent to the reflector shortly.  Mark is still requesting the secure software package.  Mark has been reviewing an archival file sent by Dennis Lawrence for post in the archive area of the web site.

 

Book Series [Fujii]

 

Paul Croll stated that everything is on schedule for the book series.

 

Conferences

 

STC 2004 [Croll]

The deadline for abstracts is 5pm 9/17/03.  SESC has a sponsor track and Paul has submitted an abstract for this track.  There are 8 slots in this track.  Jim Moore, Terry Duran, Paul Croll, Norm Schneidewind are speaking.  There are 3-4 slots remaining.

 

Joe Jarzombek will be changing his role within OSD and has accepted a position as the Deputy Director of Software Assurance. He may speak about information assurance.  He asked ExCom members to provide him with any information they may have regarding secure subsets that have been developed in support specific development languages.

 

Kathy Land suggested a panel with the title, ‘Lessons Learned from Applying IEEE Standards Developing Software for the Department of Defense.’

 

ASQ [Lohr]

 

The panel, Traditional and Non-Traditional Standards, is on schedule for the ASQ conference.

 

ISRE [Schneidewind]

 

A workshop on software assessment has been scheduled; Norm Schneidewind will be heavily involved with this workshop.  ISRE will be held November 17-20 in Denver 2003.  The deadlines for ISRE have passed, however, there is space available in the workshop to be held on the 17th.  Contact Norm for abstract submission.

 

Ukrainian Software Engineering Training Center [Moldavsky]

 

Symon Moldavsky has been working with Jim Moore to establish a software engineering training center in the Ukraine.  Paul is drafting a letter addressing the intellectual property issues associated with using IEEE standards.  This will enable them to base their training on IEEE standards.   Symon provided the group with a summary of the work currently being done in support of this center.  He is very interested in the distance-learning course being prepared for CSDP.  Paul suggested that he get Simon in touch with Stacy Saul.

 

ISO/IEC 12207 Amd1 and ISO/IEC 15228 adoption [Moore]

 

Jim Moore is not present.  Paul Croll stated that Jim is evaluating the adoption of ISO/IEC 12207 Amd 1.  Regarding 15228, Jim is working intellectual property issues and possibility of IEEE adoption.  The idea is to adopt the standard prior to harmonization because this would give IEEE more leverage when the international harmonization (12207/15228) proceeds. 

 

Mapping [Croll]

 

Ted Byrne developed software that stripped the first 255 characters from the standards clause and subclause.  The process Ted follows is that he converts the Word version of the standard to text, strips out the informative part.  Then he uses the tool to convert the clauses and subclauses.  Paul will send Ted the next set of standards to convert.

 


Standards Based Training [Lohr]

 

Claire contacted Stacy Saul and she sent the abstracts for standards courses, which were used previously.  Prior to advertising the courses, an E-Mail from Stacy discusses the answers she would like to get to some specific questions including: Who would be teaching the courses? Is the course material ready for review? What are the rates for instructors?  Claire asked the group if this would be something that SESC would be willing to commit resources to support.  Joe Jarzombek stated that it would be nice to include SESC materials to augment each training package.  Ensure that the trainers promote SESC activities.

 

Peter Voldner stated that the standards training activity is quite low.  Claire Lohr stated that the entire training industry is in a low period of activity as a whole.  Peter suggested that the certification might provide a leverage point for training. 

 

Paul Croll suggested capturing the relation of a clause/subclause in a specific standard to CSDP knowledge areas might be a useful activity.  Claire suggested that mapping to the SWEBOK might be more appropriate.

 

Symon suggested that their University should be identified as a certification provider on the IEEE web site.  The suggestion was made that he contact Stacy Saul regarding this issue.

 

David Schultz suggested that Claire put together a package that would identify what would be included in SESC standards based training.  Simon and Claire agreed to jointly prepare the package for the October telecon.  Symon agreed to prepare the first draft and then send it to Claire.

 

Action Item Status and Discussion [Croll/Land]

 

Review the action item list and email updates to Kathy Land prior to the next teleconference.

 

Next teleconference: Tuesday, 14 Oct 2003, 12:30 PM EDT; please email requests for agenda items to Paul Croll.